You’ve Got Lael Episode 37: Why We Need Each Other with Rebecca Greenidge


I don't know about you, but I keep asking myself, "What can I do to create real change in the world? What's really going to make a difference?"

From mass shootings and school shootings, the overturn of Roe, hate-based legislation of our most marginalized community members, and political corruption, it's no wonder we feel overwhelmed and hopeless. 

It's been illuminating to me that the system of white dominance is designed to create this very effect. To overwhelm us so we numb out. Because when we're numb, we don't take action.

Then life can go on as usual - benefitting the few at the top - which is exactly how our country was designed.

I keep waking up to more and more ways I've numbed out. The ways I've bought into and upheld these systems of dominance. I see it a lot now. It has me examining all aspects of my life, my work, and my relationships.

Of course, now I want every numb person to wake up to this reality! I want us to use our proximity to power to interrupt and reject these oppressive systems and rebuild a new world that upholds the dignity, worth, and well-being of all people.

My conversation partner today is my mentor and teacher Rebecca Greenidge of JORE Consulting. Rebecca and I have conversations like this frequently. Rebecca helps me understand what I'm experiencing and I help her remember what it's like to be a beginner.

Rebecca and her late husband Jomo founded JORE Consulting in 2017 with the mission to help white-bodied people develop the skills to identify, interrupt and repair the impact of white dominance. Please consider doing this healing and empowering work. Sign up for her newsletter and attend one of her upcoming workshops at

From Rebecca:

"Greetings of big love. I’m Rebecca Greenidge. I bring forward with me my ancestors who are the uprooted people of Polish, German, Irish, and British heritage. I also bring forward with me my partner, Jomo D.M. Greenidge, who is my best and most lasting teacher and who transitioned to ancestor in December 2020. I currently reside on the homelands of the Cowlitz people - colonized as Portland, Oregon.

My journey has led me to understand that I must heal the wounds that have enabled me to participate in systems of oppression and co-create the environment and conditions which allow those around me to heal themselves. As we heal, we loosen ourselves from dominance and participate in framing a world where everyone belongs."

I hope our conversation moves you forward on your journey of liberation of yourself and on behalf of us all. 

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This episode is brought to you by Lael Petersen Coaching. Lael provides dynamic coaching for people who want to know themselves on a deeper level, shift outdated habits, and live their lives with purpose. If you are tired of talking about your problems and ready to grow and change, let's talk!

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Song Credit: In Another Place by Isaac Elliott